Roger Stone’s lawyers want the jury to think about Stone’s state of mind when he made allegedly false statements to the House Intelligence Committee about his attempts to contact WikiLeaks.

That was the defense, offered by Stone’s attorneys in court for the first time Wednesday, against charges that Stone lied to Congress and impeded a congressional investigation. Defense lawyer Bruce Rogow argued that, because Stone was appearing before the committee as part of its probe on Russian interference in the 2016 election, he was only answering questions with Russia, and not WikiLeaks, in mind.